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ABF engines
Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 8:13 pm
by the edmundator
What are the most likely cars to find an ABF engine in?
The more specific you can be about year, spec etc, the better.
Cheers.
Re: ABF engines
Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 8:22 pm
by marksg60
mk3 golf gti 16v from 92-97 i think the year is correct.
Re: ABF engines
Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 9:02 pm
by Birdy
A few cars were fitted with the ABF, not sure on model spec/name etc but the fitted dates are: (courtesy of ETKA)
VW
Golf MK3 - 08/92 - 12/97
Passat - 01/94 - 12/96
Seat
Cordoba - 07/96 - 06/99
Ibiza - 07/96 - 06/99
Toledo - 03/94 - 03/99
Re: ABF engines
Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 9:09 pm
by GTXTRA
bit generic but.........
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volkswagen ... hp_2.0_16V
136–150 hp 2.0 16V
Configuration
1,984 cc inline 4 (121 in³)
Cylinders
bore × stroke 82.5 × 92.8 mm (0.89), 496 cc/cylinder, 10.5:1 compression ratio
Block
grey cast iron, five bearings
Head
DOHC 4-valve per cylinder
Fuel
KE-Jetronic, Digifant
Aspiration
long overhead cast aluminium intake manifold
output
100 kW (136 hp), 180 N·m (130 lb·ft) VW Passat B3 16V VW Jetta,Golf MKII
output
103 kW (140 hp), 181 N·m (133 lb·ft) Audi 80/100 for south European market
output
110 kW (150 hp) at 6000 rpm, 180 N·m (130 lb·ft) at 4800 rpm VW Golf III GTI 16V, VW Passat B4 16V
application
VW Golf GTI, VW Passat, Audi 100, VW Jetta GLI,GTX
seat leons toledo and ibiza of the period would have had this - tried checking club gti but search threw up too much/wasnt working.
Re: ABF engines
Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 9:12 pm
by the edmundator
Thanks. Mk.3 GTIs seem to be the best hunting ground...
Re: ABF engines
Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 11:39 am
by MrP
the edmundator wrote:Thanks. Mk.3 GTIs seem to be the best hunting ground...
Seat toledo or cordoba are the best ones to look out for... Being from 'boring saloons' they will most likley had a less of a thrashing than a GTi. Plus you can pick up a whole car for sub £400 so you will know what the engine is like before you put it in.
Re: ABF engines
Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 11:50 am
by Tim_R
Also the Seats are newer so potentially less miles on them in general and if you want to use the o2a cable change box have a cable operated clutch mech instead of hydraulic. I've pulled an ABF engine, loom, gearbox, gearstick mech for cable shift out at my local scrappy for £100. My 205 was on its bump stops by the time i'd finished.
Re: ABF engines
Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 11:54 am
by MrP
Tim_R wrote:Also the Seats are newer so potentially less miles on them in general and if you want to use the o2a cable change box have a cable operated clutch mech instead of hydraulic. I've pulled an ABF engine, loom, gearbox, gearstick mech for cable shift out at my local scrappy for £100. My 205 was on its bump stops by the time i'd finished.
Thats right, iirc its only the Seats that have the cable gearbox.
Re: ABF engines
Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 1:55 pm
by the edmundator
The problem with the Seats is that there aren't that many around. The ones I have seen are priced closer to the £750-£1000 mark, and tend to have an auto 'box too.
There are dozens of 16v Golfs around. Passats, if they turn up, do tend to be cheap though.
Re: ABF engines
Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 2:08 pm
by MrP
I personally wouldn't pay more than £350 for a ABF with all ancilaries. Unless its modded or been rebuilt (with proof). The odd car does come up on Ebay etc which are cheap. I'll keep an eye out.
Re: ABF engines
Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 2:11 pm
by GTXTRA
forgot the corrado and vento of course?
Re: ABF engines
Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 2:12 pm
by MrP
GTXTRA wrote:forgot the corrado and vento of course?
Corrado was 9a. No idea about the vento tho?
Re: ABF engines
Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 2:18 pm
by GTXTRA
MrP wrote:GTXTRA wrote:forgot the corrado and vento of course?
Corrado was 9a. No idea about the vento tho?
learn something new every day!
Re: ABF engines
Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 9:43 pm
by Ryan
Don't think the Vento had it either...