Singh's Rocco

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Delraj
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Day 9

Post by Delraj »

Hey guys, its another day on the project, unfortunatley there is nothing much to do on the car yet until i can get it on the Rotisserie, The sunroof is still to come off and i am in the middle of purchasing a Chrome Golde Sunroof Handle if the price is right.

Back on with welding the Rotisserie, just the feet & chassis leg forks to weld. We used 2 coach stands (big yellow stands that the car was on earlier in the project) and a white plastic sheet so people visiting / working in and around the garage did not get Arc Eye (i believe its called) / protecting peoples eyes from the bright welding light if anyone wanted to know what that was there. We had to make due with the small Mig welder with 0.8 wire i believe. there was another Mig welder that was 3 times the size but it had 0.6 wire. Anyway following are the pictures. They say "picture paints a thousand words" hopefully these will just save me explaining everything we did.

Oh and by the way i was doing the majority of the welding as i picked of the knack of it really quicking, impressed even if i say so myself.

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The front chassis leg forks welded.
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And the sparks fly!!!
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It burns!!!
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Testing the front chassis leg forks.
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Fits like a glove.
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What it will rougly look like.
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All we needed to do was thread through M12 bolts for the feet so the Rotisserie could be flat packed. we tried drilling like a 7+mm hole through 4mm ish steel box section and that didnt work so we tried 5mm HSS-R drill bit but it was blunt. so bought a new 4.5mm HSS-R Bosch bit from Screwfix not B&Q because they are really expensive because i checked (Screwfix are owned by B&Q aswell so its abit odd for Screwfix to be cheaper) for £1.69 that did a few holes until we put to much pressure on it and it snapped and half of it dug into my leg. Dont worry it was only a puncture on the leg. so tried the blunt 5mm HSS-R bit and we snapped that bloody thing too. Argghh!!!

Mad Dash to Screwfix bought a 5mm HSS-R for £1.69 aswell and finished the holes then widenened them with the 7+mm drill bit.

Just need to widen it again with a bit for the M12 Bolts and we are done.

And all this FAF without a pillar drill.
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And the end of the day.
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MikeH
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Re: Singh's Rocco

Post by MikeH »

I'm getting deja vu reading this thread ;)


1992 Scala ABF - SOLD
1989 Scala track toy. Dormant
1986 GTX - Lunar mileage but still a good un
Mk1 Classic Touring Car Project...slowly does it
1984 1.6 GT Project. 69k In progress
1.6GL. 2 Owners, 60k. SOLD
1.6 GL - 100k miles -Back on the road!
Delraj
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Day 10

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Finish off widening the holes, went out and bought a 7mm HSS-R Bosch bit and then used an old 10mm ish HSS-R bit to get the M12 bolts through, 7mm was on Air drill, 10mm ish was on a stupid rusty electric drill. the bit drill bit kept gripping the metal as i was trying to widen the holes and ripping its self out of my hands. Luckily no injuries even though it happens like 3 times. Note to self is to use a pillar drill or be very straight & firm.

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Finshed :) so now get the forklift in.
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Look, it thinks its a dead duck.
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Now it looks like a train trailler
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wasnt as secure as first anticipated due to crap welding on not so flush straight metal. also used a lorry strap to bring the stands in as the weight was bending the frames inwards.
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Scratch its belly next!!!
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It was pretty even for a shell to rotate so needed a hand.
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Get the forklift back in because the stand really did need some more welding and modification.
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Once the cars Rotisserie was welded and modified we took it for a jet wash in our local Albanian car was that was just in our car park, so borrowed the pressure washers and blasted away the grease and much in the Engine Bay, Arches & underside.
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That was our Saturday, we had a Lazy Sunday & Bank Holiday Monday at home when we should of really been working on the car. Any way that was our day what do you all think.


mr.brown
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Re: Singh's Rocco

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Looking good :good:

Did the Albanians look a bit surprised when you rolled up? :hehe:


MikeH
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Re: Singh's Rocco

Post by MikeH »

Nice to see the extra progress - I recently bought a 2nd hand rollover jig, and I think it has a length-wise bar right along the bottom, although it needs it more, because it's a wheeled version. Something similar would hold your bottom stays in place - do the job that the ratchet strap is currently doing. Ideally you want to put a sleeve in it and make it adjustable.

Is the bracket bolted into the bumper holes, rather than just held on by the weight of the car?


1992 Scala ABF - SOLD
1989 Scala track toy. Dormant
1986 GTX - Lunar mileage but still a good un
Mk1 Classic Touring Car Project...slowly does it
1984 1.6 GT Project. 69k In progress
1.6GL. 2 Owners, 60k. SOLD
1.6 GL - 100k miles -Back on the road!
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Dr. Dub
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Re: Singh's Rocco

Post by Dr. Dub »

Great work so far Sir. :good:


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Delraj
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Day 11

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Now this day was the worst so far. i couldnt be bothered at 1 point but i got on with it. WARNING this post contains DISTRESSING images.

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What way was up? we was infact taking the only thing left to take off the car which was the sunroof because there was no handle when i got it, so got a second hand handle from ebay, took ages to find a Chrome Golde sunroof handle for tilt sunroof cost me £11.

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Drivers side near rear wheel arch.

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Drivers side wheel arch.

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Passenger side axle mount rusted to pieces.
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Drivers side axle mount rusted to pieces also.
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sills rusted outside aswell as inside.
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MikeH
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Re: Singh's Rocco

Post by MikeH »

Ouch! I'm not all that surprised, but ouch all the same. Good idea taking all the muck and rust off before you start welding, so you can see what needs done.


1992 Scala ABF - SOLD
1989 Scala track toy. Dormant
1986 GTX - Lunar mileage but still a good un
Mk1 Classic Touring Car Project...slowly does it
1984 1.6 GT Project. 69k In progress
1.6GL. 2 Owners, 60k. SOLD
1.6 GL - 100k miles -Back on the road!
Delraj
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Location: Huddersfield

Day 12

Post by Delraj »

Hi Guys sorry for not getting back to any of your questiosn been so busy at work and home but i am uploading the last 3 days of work now finally.

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Basically just did some cleaning and cutting on the Near (Passenger) Side rear axle mount.


Delraj
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Day 13

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Hi guys another day of photos that i didnt have time to upload.

Cutting more away for better access on Near Side.
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Off Side
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what a great angle to work at
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what is now dusty engine & tires.
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MikeH
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Re: Singh's Rocco

Post by MikeH »

Looks like you're just about ready to start melting metal!

It looks like you might already have thought of this, but be careful of what you cut off from now on - you might need to leave things in place to see the shape of the patching piece, or get the position of the repair panel, make the patch, and then cut them off just before you put the new bit on. You did the right thing leaving the actual axle mounting points in place, as the location is v important (obviously).

Don't go chopping the sills off without welding a brace across the door - otherwise the whole thing will bend in the middle, and we don't want that now, do we?! :hugegrin:

Best of luck with it. It's a long road ahead, having just done the rear arches on one of min, if you can't get repair panels then it involves making up a lot of cardboard templates for the individual patches, to get around the complex bends. Fortunately it's a body kit car, so you don't have to be cosmetically immaculate with it. Nice and solid, and close enough for the body kit to fit over neatly will do the job. Probably worth spending the money on repair panels if you can get them though!


1992 Scala ABF - SOLD
1989 Scala track toy. Dormant
1986 GTX - Lunar mileage but still a good un
Mk1 Classic Touring Car Project...slowly does it
1984 1.6 GT Project. 69k In progress
1.6GL. 2 Owners, 60k. SOLD
1.6 GL - 100k miles -Back on the road!
Delraj
Posts: 44
Joined: Mon Feb 13, 2012 8:48 pm
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Location: Huddersfield

Re: Singh's Rocco

Post by Delraj »

MikeH wrote:Looks like you're just about ready to start melting metal!

It looks like you might already have thought of this, but be careful of what you cut off from now on - you might need to leave things in place to see the shape of the patching piece, or get the position of the repair panel, make the patch, and then cut them off just before you put the new bit on. You did the right thing leaving the actual axle mounting points in place, as the location is v important (obviously).

Don't go chopping the sills off without welding a brace across the door - otherwise the whole thing will bend in the middle, and we don't want that now, do we?! :hugegrin:

Best of luck with it. It's a long road ahead, having just done the rear arches on one of min, if you can't get repair panels then it involves making up a lot of cardboard templates for the individual patches, to get around the complex bends. Fortunately it's a body kit car, so you don't have to be cosmetically immaculate with it. Nice and solid, and close enough for the body kit to fit over neatly will do the job. Probably worth spending the money on repair panels if you can get them though!
Yh we already started welding and choppping, Its noted about the patching and i heard it would flop if you cut into the sills too. we finished the downhill section of the build i believe and now on the up hill struggle but now we are aadding stuff rather than removing stuff. Its a good thing it has a bodykits so it doesnt have to be perfect. we will get there eventually because i can already taste victory.


Delraj
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Day 14 & 15

Post by Delraj »

Welded new back plate to Off Side axle mount.
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Near Side axle mount currently with new axle mount plate tacked in place just need to do the seam weld, grind back and coat with rust prevention.
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Off Side axle mount currently with new axle plate welded in place and already seam welded, just need to grind back do any more welding and coat with rust protection.
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The Off Side axle mount was in alot better condition than the Near Side even though the Off Side has the fuel filler kneck on that side that was a bit weird to me anyway the major stuff is nearly out of the way i think.


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