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Re: Paul's 89 Mk2 GT2
Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 6:13 pm
by DT1
Fair amount of work there.
Re: Paul's 89 Mk2 GT2
Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2012 1:25 am
by MacColl
Good work
I'm very close to removing my beam to replace with a refurbished one.
Any problems getting the beam off? Your mounting points look potentially good structurally but hard to tell from pictures.
I didn't bother with the back plates as they command silly prices but if you need them try VW heritage or these places..
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/GOLF-MK1-GTI- ... 3f121c25bc" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.golfmk1.co.uk/Items.php?cat= ... SUSPENSION" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Re: Paul's 89 Mk2 GT2
Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 12:21 pm
by pajsh
Thanks for that.
I had no real problems taking the beam off or the front suspension. I was quite surprised how easy the bolts came came off given the earlier pictures of the mounts. I think the previous owner put F&R ARB's on and uprated springs so I guess they have only been on maybe 12-14 years or so and it's been off the road for about 6 of those. They were on pretty tight mind you and pretty rusty, but I just took my time and used lots of penetrating fluid. I think the car mounting points are in reasonable shape but might need some tidying up on the seams just to prevent things getting worse.
Annoyingly what I can't get off at the moment are the rear struts for which I just can't seem to loosen the top nuts. Nuts that are clean, have never been in the open and I would not have thought needed to be tight. How do you hold the strut tight enough to undo the top nuts

. I tried some mole grips on the top of the strut but they just chewed up the little notched bit. I'm now wondering if I can get to the nut under the mount if I get some spring compressors. If anyone has any bright ideas I'd really appreciate them. I'm replacing the struts so they can be sacrificed.
I did wonder about if it was worth it to replace the back plates but given the car will have little use other than the odd blast and some track days, I'm not sure I'll bother. Thanks for the link though.
Re: Paul's 89 Mk2 GT2
Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 9:34 pm
by pajsh
Re: Paul's 89 Mk2 GT2
Posted: Sun May 13, 2012 7:10 pm
by pajsh
Having built a Locost 7 & I'm more than used to the highs and lows of project cars.
This weekend was a low and one of those days when you feel like calling the local scrap man round and telling him to take it away!!
I find the best way round this is to work on something simple but productive instead and also step back from the project and out of the woods for a bit.
My electrolysis cleaning has been going well
But not so well the recovery of the rear beam mounting bolts :( Got a bit to careless with the grinder
It was the prospect of where to start with cleaning up this lot was a bit depressing
So instead I continued stripping out the carpets only to find that in the past some clown has jacked up the car under the floor support and bent it and the floor on both sides

Hopefully not an MOT failure but I might have to bend it back somehow.
Spot the dog. She's such a loyal sweetie, my building buddy
So went back to stripping the interior and tidying up some redundant wiring.
Finally spent the evening trawling through websites to find the best prices for all the new bits I need so that gave me a bit more focus.
Next Saturday I'm going to start on that cleaning.

Re: Paul's 89 Mk2 GT2
Posted: Sun May 27, 2012 8:10 pm
by pajsh
Re: Paul's 89 Mk2 GT2
Posted: Sun May 27, 2012 11:18 pm
by go-for-it1
[quote="pajsh"]Having built a Locost 7 & I'm more than used to the highs and lows of project cars.
This weekend was a low and one of those days when you feel like calling the local scrap man round and telling him to take it away!!
I find the best way round this is to work on something simple but productive instead and also step back from the project and out of the woods for a bit.
My electrolysis cleaning has been going well
How's this work then and what do the parts look like afterwards? Is the basin full of acid or something?
Re: Paul's 89 Mk2 GT2
Posted: Mon May 28, 2012 1:24 pm
by pajsh
It works very well and removes only rust rather than good material. Very little effort needed.
You can Google "Cleaning by electrolysis" and there is lots of information but see here for an explanation
http://antique-engines.com/electrol.asp
http://www.htpaa.org.au/article-electro.php.
The power comes via an old 12v computer PSU and I have the second bath powered using an old 12v battery charger. The battery charger works really well as it has an ammeter on it and you can see if you have a good connection or not. With the computer PSU the only way of telling is when you can see plenty of bubbles (hydrogen & oxygen).
The solution is made from soda crystals (washing soda0 that Tesco sell in 1kg bags for around 90p. I bought 2 bags (there were only 3 on the shelf) and I still have a full one left. Other than getting dirty the solution does not need changing and is pretty safe.
Most important points seem to be not using stainless anodes or a galvanised bath. A piece of Re-bar for an anode and washing bowls work for me.
Re: Paul's 89 Mk2 GT2
Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2012 8:55 pm
by pajsh
Not done much this last month due to the crap weather. I'm busy cleaning up bits but rapidly reaching the point where I need to clean up under the car and tackle the rear beam. I'm also about to spend a lot of cash on new parts including suspension and drive train so I'm searching around and trying to make sure I get the best VFM.
But.....
I had the hubs knocked out by a local garage and this enabled me to clean up the carriers.
Electrolysis cleaned most of the rust off and loosened up the back plate bolts but I could not get a decent grip on them. So I filed them down to get a decent flat each side and got the molies on em.
Cleaned and primed ready for top coat and new bearings
Also cleaned up rear ARB brackets and clips. The clips were pretty crappy so I was pleased how the came out. Spring band clamps are next.
Before:
After:
Off next week so hoping for some good weather to get underneath and treat the rusty bits plus tackle the rear beam. Then I can start buying and bolting up.
Re: Paul's 89 Mk2 GT2
Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2012 9:57 pm
by pajsh
Just about to drop off the bottom of the forum page so thought I'd post some progress.
Mostly revolved around sorting the rear beam as things are starting to go back together.
Plus a few bits painted and ready to go back on
This weekend I'm hoping to get some brake bits for the rear drums and start fitting the rear beam out. Then it's on with the fuel tank and sourcing some coilovers and suspension bushes.
Re: Paul's 89 Mk2 GT2
Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2012 10:14 pm
by Mr Funk
Excellent work there fella
Re: Paul's 89 Mk2 GT2
Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 12:54 pm
by pajsh
Thanks Funk.
Slow going I'm afraid but targeting her back on the road for her 25th birthday in June 2014.
I know that seems a long way off but my plan is to do the exterior this "summer", engine and g/box strip and re-build over winter, engine drop in next year and then interior to finish.
Still got you in mind for ideas when I come to the interior

.
I'm hoping to make Tatton this weekend (without the car of course) and maybe Cosford after to get to know some faces and maybe ask some questions.
ATB
Re: Paul's 89 Mk2 GT2
Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2012 7:46 pm
by pajsh
Unfortunately Tatton NWVW got sacrificed for some more progress, basically on cleaning and painting parts.
Before
After
Also cleaned up the engine mounts
Before
After (ready for some Black Hammerite smooth)
And cleaned the rear of the car, including treating the mounts with Kurust. They seem pretty sound so I'm happy to crack on with the big spend.
Finally cleaned up the brake transfer gizmo including dismantling the shift lever.
Unfortunately the gear lever boot is knackered. Really hope I can get a replacement :(
Next job is to buy some bits to re-assemble the rear beam, fix the new fuel tank and then the rear beam.
Re: Paul's 89 Mk2 GT2
Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2012 9:37 pm
by mark1gls
You could still get the gear shift boot from VW a couple of years ago, if not heres one on ebay, I thought mine was cheaper from VW than this one on ebay
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/GOLF-MK1-GTI- ... 51a076961c
Re: Paul's 89 Mk2 GT2
Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2012 8:14 am
by pajsh
Excellent.
Really appreciate that thanks.
Not a kings ransom even with the postage.