Coilovers

[ianaudia4]

I have just seen a set of Jom coilovers on German Ebay.

Eu 209 plus Eu17 for postage.

Anyone any experience with Jom? I have read good things on the internet about these.

Thoughts?

[eamon1.3]

I know the guy who runs vagen.vg and he rates the jom coilovers very highly.

[manox]

Im looking at a set of these too... Read a thread on vortex that might interest you on the JOM subject http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=4037902

Im planning on getting mine tail end of august, if you do get them let me know how they fit and ride please!
Cheers, Andy

[ianaudia4]

Sounds like a good product, still stewing over coilovers or just uprated and lowered (slightly) suspension.
I will keep you informed.

[Mr Funk]

Sounds like a good product, still stewing over coilovers or just uprated and lowered (slightly) suspension.
I will keep you informed.

Coileys all the way.
I seem to remember that, like most thing, the JOm coileys are exactly the same as another quality product but rebadged the weitec/hr vein.

[eamon1.3]

Sounds like a good product, still stewing over coilovers or just uprated and lowered (slightly) suspension.
I will keep you informed.

If you dont get coilies youll always wish you had. Ive spax ones on mine and they are fantastic. BIt on the firm side but i didnt buy a scirocco for its luxery

[the edmundator]

What's the big advantage of coilovers then? Say you just wanted a fixed drop of 40mm and were never going to change the ride height, I'd imagine that you'd get a better ride quality from uprated springs/dampers than a budget coilover setup that would probably cost the same. I have the idea in my head that decent coilovers are more expensive than decent springs/dampers. Yes, or no?

[Risocco]

What's the big advantage of coilovers then?

Well...

If you dont get coilies youll always wish you had.

Think that sums it up perfectly.

Just like to add there is nothing wrong with JOM equipment, or the "Hottunning" budget coilies on eBay. Think technology has come a long way recently, I run the cheap ones and can't fault them in the slightest.

Alex

[stu.gtx]

Most people I know with coilies set them at the height they want and they never move from there. The main benefit is that you can actually find the perfect height.

[the edmundator]

Most people I know with coilies set them at the height they want and they never move from there. The main benefit is that you can actually find the perfect height.

This all sounds like "getting the look" stuff. I'm interested in which would make the car better to drive; a top-quality kit, or cheap coilovers. (I'm a driver, not a poser).

[GTXTRA]

am a recent convert to coilies.
can't comment on the make referred to here or the oft mentioned ebay cheapies.
have weitecs on the scala and ap on the gtl. see project threads for how they sit, not ridiculously low at all but much nicer to drive than the two non coilie cars.
the scala on coilies actually rides better than it did on a sport kit and thats includes a lot of urban london driving conditions.

16v will be going coilies asap and so will the mk1 and the brm eventually too.

[monzajake]

One disavantage with the cheaper coilys is that you dont get the damping adjustment.
Yes they will be a bit softer than say koni's on there firm damping adjustment, but after a while it can get a little tiresome with the pot holes in the road/ roads in genral.
Bottom line is there are lots on the market to suit your needs , be it just a low stiff ride or the low softer but ride than standard it your call just choose whats right for you..

I dont think i will go back to springs a dampers, since ive had the coilover (avo's) if been happy with the ride.
But one thing i have noticedvisvthat in 5 yrs 3 pairs of top mounts have been replaced. I guess really the standard mounts are ment for the harder ride with coilys and there the german ones from g and s..

[stu.gtx]

Most people I know with coilies set them at the height they want and they never move from there. The main benefit is that you can actually find the perfect height.

This all sounds like "getting the look" stuff. I'm interested in which would make the car better to drive; a top-quality kit, or cheap coilovers. (I'm a driver, not a poser).

It is partlially looks but also handling/practicality as if you lower them too much you can ruin the handling. Decent coilies with adjustable damping are more expensive than their equivalent fixed ride equivalents.

[RogerM]

There is no advantage to coilovers if your not going to play with the height constantly.

If your after a particular spring rate and damping rate combination it really doesn't matter if you get there via coil overs or fixed height kit. As Monza Jake has said, you really need the damping adjustment more than ride hieght (remember that due to the geometry of the front of our cars EVERY TIME you adjust the ride height you will have to reset BOTH camber and toe, if you move the height a lot (especially lower) you will need to move the steering ball joint positions to correct the bump steer!!!

I'm building a track focused car and have chosen to go for fixed height, daming adjustable, shocks with lowering spring kit of the correct rates and spending the money I saved on decent bushes and the right front anti-roll bar. I will adjust the damping between road and track but wouldn't play with ride height.

If you go really low (anything about 50mm or more under stock) you really need to get the pieces that fit between the ball joints and hubs to correct the roll centres, failure to do so WILL result in horrible understeer at the limit!