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T-Pieces
Posted: Wed May 18, 2011 9:21 pm
by G Beats
hi i have a set of vdo's come out of audi in the set i have a oil pressure gauge electric volts gauge and water pressure gauge i all so have VDO Temperature Sender and volts sender these are to in a vw mk 2 scirocco 1800 8v injection DX Engine 1989 ' now my mechanic thinks i need to fit these 2 t-pieces 1 for oil pressure which agree on but the t-piece for the water pressure gauge iam not to sure what u all think on here? many than'x
and which T-Pieces will fit here---
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/OIL-GAUGE-FITTING ... _945wt_881
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/OIL-GAUGE-FITTING ... _945wt_881
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/T-PIECE-1-8-NPT-O ... 4316wt_902
or does anybody know of any other 1s ? many than'x.
Re: T-Pieces
Posted: Wed May 18, 2011 10:11 pm
by ianaudia4
So you are fitting 5 gauges?
Re: T-Pieces
Posted: Wed May 18, 2011 11:20 pm
by go-for-it1
Are you sure it is a "water pressure gauge" not an oil temperature gauge? The 3 gauges from audi sports are usually oil pressure, oil temperature and voltage, and you need the Audi oil pressure sensor which is marked with the same range as the gauge and an oil temperature sensor. You don't actually need a tee piece if you have the original audi oil pressure sensor with 2 spades on the top, just take out the oil pressure switch on the right side of the head and put the audi oil pressure sensor in its place, making sure you use a new sealing washer. Connect the original pressure switch wire to the sensor and run a new cable from the gauge to the new audi sensor and connect to the terminal marked "G" on the sensor.
For the oil temperature sensor, just unscrew the blanking plug in the centre of the top of the oil filter housing, (needs an allen key), and screw the Audi oil temperature sensor in there, again with a new washer. Sometimes there is a green and black cable with a spade on it folded back on the wiring loom just above the filter which can be used for the oil temp sensor if you can trace it back to the dash board but I would just run a new cable from the sensor back to the new gauge. Don't forget, the sensor cables go on the terminals marked "G" on the gauges and the "G" terminal on the oil pressure sensor.
Voltage can be connected to the switched live going to the cig lighter and the gauge lamp cables to the light feed to the ashtray so the lights can dim when you turn the wheel on the light switch.
Hope this helps matey.
Rob
Re: T-Pieces
Posted: Thu May 19, 2011 12:09 am
by G Beats
yeah this is the set i have but my machnic thinks the oil pressure gauge will not work with out the T-Piece yeah i have the sender as in 1 of these--
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/OIL-PRESSURE-Send ... 4300wt_902
and the part at the front of this pic ====
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/vw-golf-mk-I-audi ... _500wt_898
Re: T-Pieces
Posted: Thu May 19, 2011 2:50 am
by go-for-it1
Got no ebay at the moment as at work but I will have a look at the links when i get back home and reply.
Re: T-Pieces
Posted: Thu May 19, 2011 3:49 am
by G Beats
go-for-it1 wrote:Got no ebay at the moment as at work but I will have a look at the links when i get back home and reply.
ok sure great many than'x
Re: T-Pieces
Posted: Thu May 19, 2011 10:50 am
by Birdy
You don't need any 'T' pieces to run the VDO oil pressure gauge. Fitted one on my ABF and on a friends DX engine without having to use one!
iirc there isn't enough water temp senders on the engine to run both the built in dash gauge and the extra VDO gauge. You may want to run a 'T' piece on one of the water senders so you'll be able add an extra temp sender.
Re: T-Pieces
Posted: Thu May 19, 2011 11:38 am
by PeteGLi
[quote="geebeats"]yeah this is the set i have but my machnic thinks the oil pressure gauge will not work with out the T-Piece yeah i have the sender as in 1 of these--
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/OIL-PRESSURE-Send ... 4300wt_902
/quote]
If you have this exact sender then it will NOT fit in place of the low oil pressure switch on the VW cylinder head without an ADAPTER - not a T-piece, as the thread size and pitch is wrong.
VW threads are 10M x 1, so you will need an adapter with a male 10M x 1 thread to screw into the head with a female 1/8 NPT thread the other end to take that particular sender.
However, if you have an original AUDI two pole sender, then you should not need an adapter as it should screw straight into the cylinder head.
Re: T-Pieces
Posted: Thu May 19, 2011 6:11 pm
by go-for-it1
PeteGLi wrote:geebeats wrote:yeah this is the set i have but my machnic thinks the oil pressure gauge will not work with out the T-Piece yeah i have the sender as in 1 of these--
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/OIL-PRESSURE-Send ... 4300wt_902
/quote]
If you have this exact sender then it will NOT fit in place of the low oil pressure switch on the VW cylinder head without an ADAPTER - not a T-piece, as the thread size and pitch is wrong.
VW threads are 10M x 1, so you will need an adapter with a male 10M x 1 thread to screw into the head with a female 1/8 NPT thread the other end to take that particular sender.
However, if you have an original AUDI two pole sender, then you should not need an adapter as it should screw straight into the cylinder head.
G, this sender from ebay will NOT work with the Audi gauges. It is a 0 - 7 bar sender and the Audi gauge is 0 - 5 bar, the two need to match. As Pete says, you need the Audi 0 -5 bar, 2 pole sender which has a M10 x 1mm male thread and that will screw straight into the head without any adapter or tee piece and your original oil pressure sender will not be required as the second pole on the sender (marked WK) does the same job. The small Oil temp sender you have got looks correct and as I said before just screws into the top of the oil filter where the allen bolt sits. Check the range stamped on the side of the this sender as well as this also needs to match the gauge range i.e. 60 - 170 degrees C.
Rob
Re: T-Pieces
Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 3:47 am
by G Beats
PeteGLi wrote:geebeats wrote:yeah this is the set i have but my machnic thinks the oil pressure gauge will not work with out the T-Piece yeah i have the sender as in 1 of these--
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/OIL-PRESSURE-Send ... 4300wt_902
/quote]
If you have this exact sender then it will NOT fit in place of the low oil pressure switch on the VW cylinder head without an ADAPTER - not a T-piece, as the thread size and pitch is wrong.
VW threads are 10M x 1, so you will need an adapter with a male 10M x 1 thread to screw into the head with a female 1/8 NPT thread the other end to take that particular sender.
However, if you have an origilnal AUDI two pole sender, then you should not need an adapter as it should screw straight into the cylinder head.
ok thanx iam sure i have the origilnal AUDI 1
Re: T-Pieces
Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 3:53 am
by G Beats
go-for-it1 wrote:PeteGLi wrote:geebeats wrote:yeah this is the set i have but my machnic thinks the oil pressure gauge will not work with out the T-Piece yeah i have the sender as in 1 of these--
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/OIL-PRESSURE-Send ... 4300wt_902
/quote]
If you have this exact sender then it will NOT fit in place of the low oil pressure switch on the VW cylinder head without an ADAPTER - not a T-piece, as the thread size and pitch is wrong.
VW threads are 10M x 1, so you will need an adapter with a male 10M x 1 thread to screw into the head with a female 1/8 NPT thread the other end to take that particular sender.
However, if you have an original AUDI two pole sender, then you should not need an adapter as it should screw straight into the cylinder head.
G, this sender from ebay will NOT work with the Audi gauges. It is a 0 - 7 bar sender and the Audi gauge is 0 - 5 bar, the two need to match. As Pete says, you need the Audi 0 -5 bar, 2 pole sender which has a M10 x 1mm male thread and that will screw straight into the head without any adapter or tee piece and your original oil pressure sender will not be required as the second pole on the sender (marked WK) does the same job. The small Oil temp sender you have got looks correct and as I said before just screws into the top of the oil filter where the allen bolt sits. Check the range stamped on the side of the this sender as well as this also needs to match the gauge range i.e. 60 - 170 degrees C.
Rob
ok sure than'x what about what bridy says off hear about the water temp gauge here====
iirc there isn't enough water temp senders on the engine to run both the built in dash gauge and the extra VDO gauge. You may want to run a 'T' piece on one of the water senders so you'll be able add an extra temp sender.?