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Bonnet Query (Filmidget)
Posted: Fri May 08, 2009 8:22 pm
by Slugga
The other thread was locked but this interested me....
Did you attack this yourself? Angle grinder? I had thought about doing this but thought I'd end up going through the top skin.
Re: Bonnet Query (Filmidget)
Posted: Fri May 08, 2009 11:24 pm
by filmidget
Doh! Meant to unlock the thread as a bit of discussion on bonnet weights might be useful... ah well.
Didn't do it myself, it came on a track prep'ed car bought to break.
Anybody weigh a standard bonnet?
Perhaps further cutting could get the bonnet down to 8kg (on bonnet pins)... Now even if the carbon bonnets came out to 3kg the saving will (obviously) only be 5kg. Not sure if it's worth it? Assuming the GRP will be a little heavier, still not sure it's worth it despite the GRP being cheaper.
Re: Bonnet Query (Filmidget)
Posted: Fri May 08, 2009 11:30 pm
by Slugga
I will weigh my bonnet over the weekend.
Yep, I think the weight saving won't be worth the cost. A cut down bonnet like yours on bonnet pins will do the job for me and probably still be a better fit.
Thanks for the idea :)
Re: Bonnet Query (Filmidget)
Posted: Sat May 09, 2009 10:00 am
by Jetfire
Was that from the 16v GTX we had?
Re: Bonnet Query (Filmidget)
Posted: Sat May 09, 2009 12:28 pm
by filmidget
Yup.
Unfortunately there is a significant 'ding' in the leading edge.
Re: Bonnet Query (Filmidget)
Posted: Sat May 09, 2009 2:26 pm
by The Autoad
I'd like to make it clear that it wasn't a 'GTX 16v' (one of the official 10) but a mk2 Golf engine stuffed into an 8v GTX. phew...

Re: Bonnet Query (Filmidget)
Posted: Sat May 09, 2009 2:27 pm
by Boumsong
I'd be tempted to cut away that second skin from around the edge as well...Hell..Get the engine bay looking nice then cut a massive hole right through the bonnet then rivet a sheet of plastic over the top..super light weight then.
Re: Bonnet Query (Filmidget)
Posted: Sat May 09, 2009 3:32 pm
by filmidget
The Autoad wrote:I'd like to make it clear that it wasn't a 'GTX 16v' (one of the official 10) but a mk2 Golf engine stuffed into an 8v GTX. phew...

Absolutely! It's not like we'd scrap perfectly saveable Mk1 and Mk2 shells in a crisis of cars, ability and storage space. Oh, hold on...

Re: Bonnet Query (Filmidget)
Posted: Sun May 10, 2009 7:40 pm
by Jetfire
I think people would have known if we had a genuine 16v Ant lol How big can we make the letters go on this forum?

Re: Bonnet Query (Filmidget)
Posted: Wed May 13, 2009 2:22 pm
by Junglist
What's the best method for making my bonnet like that trimmed back lightweight one at the top of the thread, then? Angle grinder?
Oh, and is it's newfound weakness likely to cause any problems after time? Or will it be fine as long as no-one sits on it!?
Re: Bonnet Query (Filmidget)
Posted: Thu May 14, 2009 8:57 am
by roccodave
a freind of mine took all of the strengthening bars off of a polo one and fitted bonnet pins
doing 40mph down the road the middle of the bonnet would flap about and lift about 4inches in the middle
the drag created probably far outweighed the advantage of the weight saving
Re: Bonnet Query (Filmidget)
Posted: Thu May 14, 2009 10:50 am
by Junglist
What about replacing it with a cross shape of thin-ish sheet metal (1 or 2mm thick) perhaps an inch or so wide, spot welded perpendicular to the bonnet in place of the strengthening bars like a big 'X' but much smaller and lighter? Obviously not AS strong, but might do the trick. Or is that totally stupid?

Re: Bonnet Query (Filmidget)
Posted: Thu May 14, 2009 12:39 pm
by filmidget
roccodave wrote:a freind of mine took all of the strengthening bars off of a polo one and fitted bonnet pins
doing 40mph down the road the middle of the bonnet would flap about and lift about 4inches in the middle
the drag created probably far outweighed the advantage of the weight saving
Like this i guess?

(piccy lifted from a threaad on RetroRides)
Although I imagine that could also be a very light weight grp job.
I think is you are careful with what you remove, a bit of weight could be lost from a standard steel bonnet without it turning into a flappy mess ie keep the bracing on the leading edge. Only worth doing if you have taken steps to remove weight obvious from elsewhere first though, like race seats, stripped interior, polycarb windows, etc etc.
Can't see removing the original bracing and then trying to put back a thinner version being very effective/efficient, and would probably end up with a warped panel anyway...
Re: Bonnet Query (Filmidget)
Posted: Thu May 14, 2009 3:35 pm
by Mr Funk
Dear God.
That car looks fantastic!
Re: Bonnet Query (Filmidget)
Posted: Thu May 14, 2009 4:05 pm
by filmidget
Sir! Are you not familiar with 'Berg Cup'? Or even 'youngtimer'?
If not, head for Google and you are in for a treat.