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Removing the servo and relocating the master cylinder
Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 5:06 pm
by Boumsong
Ok, so this is my latest idea.
I want to remove the servo and have the master cylinder on the first linkage through the bulkhead (inthe drivers corner) so it connects directly to the pedal.
What I need to know is, how will this affect braking power? More or Less? I know the pedal will feel more solid, but will it be 'heavier' to push to achieve the same amount of braking force as when servo assisted?
Good idea? Bad idea? Anyone tried it or can speak from experience?
Re: Removing the servo and relocating the master cylinder
Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 5:19 pm
by PeteGLi
I think Julian in the West Country re-located his master cylinder/s to the driver's side, but haven't seen him on here for a long time.
Re: Removing the servo and relocating the master cylinder
Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 6:05 pm
by DannyH
PeteGLi wrote:I think Julian in the West Country re-located his master cylinder/s to the driver's side, but haven't seen him on here for a long time.
maybe relocating your m/s isn't such a good idea then?

Re: Removing the servo and relocating the master cylinder
Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 6:17 pm
by PeteGLi

He was doing a lot of other work to the car, and I don't know whether he has got it running yet.
Re: Removing the servo and relocating the master cylinder
Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 7:17 pm
by GTXTRA
this car, now owned by Redlee, has had its servo moved to drivers side - infact its a rado set up cut and welded into place.
Re: Removing the servo and relocating the master cylinder
Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 3:31 pm
by james butler
if you moved the master cylinder over couldnt you use a remote servo from an mg to get some extra power back?
Re: Removing the servo and relocating the master cylinder
Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 1:39 pm
by MikeH
A mate of mine has the servo removed on his track scirocco, and an AP racing master cylinder in its place. You could also go for twin cylinder racing pedal boxes, depending on your budget. You can just about see it in this pic.
Single circuit brakes might cause you issues at the MOT if the tester spots them, so better to go for a polo master cylinder or something that's designed for a road car with no servo.
The brakes will be heavier, but you'll have more feel. Also, I've got a '77 Porsche 911 with no servo, which is a heavier car with more power and bigger brakes, so it can definitely work.
Re: Removing the servo and relocating the master cylinder
Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 8:09 am
by Nate
seen a couple of conversions that keep the master cylinder where it is, but use a rotating bar to connect the pedal to it butchered from a fiesta as opposed to the much disliked pushmepullyou system that vw built
Re: Removing the servo and relocating the master cylinder
Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 2:42 pm
by GTXTRA
Nate wrote:seen a couple of conversions that keep the master cylinder where it is, but use a rotating bar to connect the pedal to it butchered from a fiesta as opposed to the much disliked pushmepullyou system that vw built
yep - my black car has one of the old Autocavan superbrake conversions - ie a bar with less moving bits than the vw system - fitted. works pretty well. Think Ant has one on redroc too that came from the donor gtx he was running a few years ago?