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Still leaking
Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2023 4:47 pm
by smudger28
Hi again guys
Sorted most of the problems on the lads car but it’s been torrential rain down here in Cornwall and we’ve got a leak in the driver footwell.
We’ve taken out the carpets to help with tracing it but still not sure where it’s coming from.
It’s all wet behind the pedals and the water also seems to be pooling in the engine bay underneath the plastic window rain gutter.
Anyone experienced this before?
Thanks
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Re: Water Leak
Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2023 10:36 pm
by GT_II
Blocked drain outlets from decayed leaves, etc, are I think the most common source of leaks into the dashboard area of most cars. So the first thing I would check is that the plenum chamber water outlets are clear. There is one at each end of the chamber which takes water into the wheel arch:
Plemum chamber rain outlet.jpg
Then I would check there are no holes in the flexible cover diverting water into the wrong part of the chamber. I would also remove the cover to check there is no sludge build up stopping water from flowing freely from one side to the other. You will then also be able to check the condition of the grommets and seals.
Re: Water Leak
Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2023 7:30 am
by smudger28
Morning GT
Thanks for the information. We've only checked the plastic rain cover and there is a crack in it.. Will check the plenum chambers tonight if this weather ever gives up! It also has a sunroof which is another place we can check... Thought we were having a good run on the car..
Re: Water Leak
Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2023 10:09 am
by Village Idiots
Corrosion or badly fitting rubber seal in the bottom corners of the windscreen can allow water in. On the passenger side it often goes via the fuse box which can be bad news.
Re: Water Leak
Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2023 7:56 pm
by mark1gls
A stiff bit of wire in a plastic sleeve so you don’t damage the paint or a long cable tie can be used to clear any blockage.
Re: Water Leak
Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2023 12:30 pm
by essextom
ive done a Youtube video on the normal water leak places on scirocco's.
it might help you -
https://youtu.be/RwR_XjVMOXo
Re: Water Leak
Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2023 5:40 pm
by smudger28
That’s a great video thanks [emoji4]. We did all the tests and then the boy noticed a huge round hole in the engine bulkhead with a cable going through. The grommet has split.
Not sure what the cable does.
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Re: Water Leak
Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2023 5:46 pm
by smudger28
Speedo cable I think. Yes deffo speed cable. The car goes in for a cam belt change next week so I will get our guy to change the grommet whilst he's working in the engine bay.
Thanks for the help.
At least the sun roof and plenum drains work..
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Re: Water Leak
Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2023 9:56 pm
by mark1gls
I don’t think changing that grommet will help as mine been split for about 4 years and my car does not leak but I don’t have a Mk2..
Re: Water Leak
Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2023 4:43 pm
by smudger28
The actual grommet had slipped off the cable exposing a nice round hole in the engine bulkhead. The boy had his cam belt changed this week and the mechanic popped it back in for him.
Re: Fixed - Water Leak
Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2023 10:53 pm
by mark1gls
That’s good news and glad I was wrong, probably a little quieter inside the car as well now the grommet in back in place.
Re: Fixed - Water Leak
Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2023 7:05 am
by smudger28
At least he no longer needs a mask and snorkel
Re: Still leaking
Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2023 11:02 am
by smudger28
Thought we’d cracked it but unfortunately it’s still leaking. Need to plug the leak as the boy has ordered all new soundproofing to go under the carpets.
So I’m going to put a small amount of silicone on the right corner of the main window seal because I’m stumped where it’s coming from.
It’s not the sunroof or plenum chamber as they drain freely.
Re: Still leaking
Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2023 6:16 pm
by GT_II
If it's a significant amount of water, I still think the plenum chamber is the likely culprit, as it is effectively the storm drain for the front half of the car. Have you checked water is not running through the heater fan housing, eg due to a crack in the rain tray or due to missing or failed rubber bushes around the fixing screws?
From the dreadnought customs video, it looks like any seepage past the windscreen seal should drain through to the plenum chamber via drain holes under the seal at either end of the scuttle panel, although I guess hidden rust in this area could cause a leak.
Re: Still leaking
Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2023 11:29 pm
by whiteshark
I would go for a new windscreen rubber and take it from there. I had a similar problem and dicked around for donkeys. Ordered new Windscreen rubber from VW classic and eventually after a while, got a guy to install it as most window fitters either refused, as it was too OLD SCHOOL and required work!! Bigger companies were looking silly money even though I was supplying the actual rubber. New window rubber and the leaks stopped. What threw me was that the leak was always behind the front seat and I thought the leak was coming somewhere from the rear. Just remember the age of the car and the age of the rubber.