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Brake Pedal Box

Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2019 8:17 pm
by theboysmiffy
Hi all. I am thinking of installing a pedal box so I will have two master cylinders and do away with the original setup and linkage bar. The system I am looking at adds the box to an existing steering column which is an exchange item. Has anyone ever remove their steering column, is it a dash out job? This is a Mk1 Rocco.

Re: Brake Pedal Box

Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2019 8:51 pm
by unknownmale
theboysmiffy wrote: Tue Nov 26, 2019 8:17 pm Hi all. I am thinking of installing a pedal box so I will have two master cylinders and do away with the original setup and linkage bar. The system I am looking at adds the box to an existing steering column which is an exchange item. Has anyone ever remove their steering column, is it a dash out job? This is a Mk1 Rocco.
I have one. If you're thinking about the CQ one it's not a direct fit. You'll need to play with an angle grinder for a bit.

Dash doesn't have to come out to get the column out.

You'll need to remove the sheer bolts from the top of the column which can sometime be difficult, but vise grips work, if not then drill them out, then the two bolts on the bulk head, take all the linkage and old booster out etc, loosen the steering UJ from the rack. It's not that bad a job.

Re: Brake Pedal Box

Posted: Wed Nov 27, 2019 5:24 am
by mr.brown
As alluded to above, the column type pedal boxes are designed for a mk1 Golf - which has a different bulkhead. These means some modification will be necessary. I bought a Vagabonds tuning one from ebay - pretty much the same as Crazy Quiffs (they're both copied from a much older Autocavan design) but ended up selling it on (to a mk1 Golf owner!).

The only company that ever made one designed for a mk1 Scirocco was HRP - I can't find contact details at the moment

Re: Brake Pedal Box

Posted: Wed Nov 27, 2019 5:00 pm
by theboysmiffy
Thank you both for your input. I always thought mk1 Golf and Rocco shared a bulkhead, well actually most things! It was actually the HRP column I was looking at so hopefully should fit without to much chopping!

Re: Brake Pedal Box

Posted: Fri Nov 29, 2019 4:54 pm
by hubbadubba
Food for thought, this is my mk1 set up, wanted factory look with performance, bit of welding to bulkhead and column but not a massive deal, polo 6n servo,24mm master cylinder, wildwood four pot calipers, brakes are awesome !, have more info if needed

Re: Brake Pedal Box

Posted: Fri Nov 29, 2019 6:12 pm
by mr.brown
hubbadubba wrote: Fri Nov 29, 2019 4:54 pm Food for thought, this is my mk1 set up, wanted factory look with performance, bit of welding to bulkhead and column but not a massive deal, polo 6n servo,24mm master cylinder, wildwood four pot calipers, brakes are awesome !, have more info if needed
Looks fantastic. What are you running for rear brakes? And is that does the bias valve provide enough reduction?

Re: Brake Pedal Box

Posted: Fri Nov 29, 2019 6:12 pm
by mr.brown
hubbadubba wrote: Fri Nov 29, 2019 4:54 pm Food for thought, this is my mk1 set up, wanted factory look with performance, bit of welding to bulkhead and column but not a massive deal, polo 6n servo,24mm master cylinder, wildwood four pot calipers, brakes are awesome !, have more info if needed
Looks fantastic. What are you running for rear brakes? And is that does the bias valve provide enough reduction?

Re: Brake Pedal Box

Posted: Fri Nov 29, 2019 6:36 pm
by hubbadubba
mr.brown wrote: Fri Nov 29, 2019 6:12 pm
hubbadubba wrote: Fri Nov 29, 2019 4:54 pm Food for thought, this is my mk1 set up, wanted factory look with performance, bit of welding to bulkhead and column but not a massive deal, polo 6n servo,24mm master cylinder, wildwood four pot calipers, brakes are awesome !, have more info if needed
Looks fantastic. What are you running for rear brakes? And is that does the bias valve provide enough reduction?
Cheers, running polo rear hubs with the sealed bearings along with the ally calipers, same as mk4 golf, yeah the bias seems to work well, haven’t had a problem with any locking of the back end on hard braking, got the bias valve set about halfway, the Wilwood bias set up instructions are pretty basic, they just advise to keep adjusting till the back brakes lock up then back it off a bit ;-)

Re: Brake Pedal Box

Posted: Sat Nov 30, 2019 2:12 am
by essextom
hubbadubba wrote: Fri Nov 29, 2019 4:54 pm Food for thought, this is my mk1 set up, wanted factory look with performance, bit of welding to bulkhead and column but not a massive deal, polo 6n servo,24mm master cylinder, wildwood four pot calipers, brakes are awesome !, have more info if needed
well that looks pretty decent. might have to get the welder out!

Re: Brake Pedal Box

Posted: Sat Nov 30, 2019 2:13 am
by essextom
hubbadubba wrote: Fri Nov 29, 2019 4:54 pm Food for thought, this is my mk1 set up, wanted factory look with performance, bit of welding to bulkhead and column but not a massive deal, polo 6n servo,24mm master cylinder, wildwood four pot calipers, brakes are awesome !, have more info if needed
oh and yes, more info would be great

Re: Brake Pedal Box

Posted: Sat Nov 30, 2019 12:46 pm
by hubbadubba
essextom wrote: Sat Nov 30, 2019 2:13 am
hubbadubba wrote: Fri Nov 29, 2019 4:54 pm Food for thought, this is my mk1 set up, wanted factory look with performance, bit of welding to bulkhead and column but not a massive deal, polo 6n servo,24mm master cylinder, wildwood four pot calipers, brakes are awesome !, have more info if needed
oh and yes, more info would be great
I’ll get some pictures together and post up a thread with some more detail on what I did :good:

Re: Brake Pedal Box

Posted: Sat Nov 30, 2019 8:34 pm
by essextom
hubbadubba wrote: Sat Nov 30, 2019 12:46 pm
essextom wrote: Sat Nov 30, 2019 2:13 am
hubbadubba wrote: Fri Nov 29, 2019 4:54 pm Food for thought, this is my mk1 set up, wanted factory look with performance, bit of welding to bulkhead and column but not a massive deal, polo 6n servo,24mm master cylinder, wildwood four pot calipers, brakes are awesome !, have more info if needed
oh and yes, more info would be great
I’ll get some pictures together and post up a thread with some more detail on what I did :good:
cheers buddy