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Mk2 rally car...

Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:06 am
by mark1gls
Searching for something else and came across this...

That's some beast....

https://rallygroupbshrine.org/todays-gr ... b-tribute/

Re: Mk2 rally car...

Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:53 am
by Jack92
Wow.. that’s impressive... but all I can see is £ signs lol


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Re: Mk2 rally car...

Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2018 12:49 pm
by BlackGTX
Really indepth specs too. Knows his stuff, bet its great fun to drive

Re: Mk2 rally car...

Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2018 2:04 pm
by accyimp
Very interesting!

Re: Mk2 rally car...

Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2018 3:48 pm
by mr.brown
Awesome work on that car.

However, it does beg the question - when does a Scirocco stop being a Scirocco? To me, that's a Scirocco-shaped kit car.

Re: Mk2 rally car...

Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2018 6:24 pm
by mark1gls
That’s true, it’s a cage with an engine, running gear etc and a Scirocco body popped on the top.

It’s the same for most rally cars now a days, they look similar to any road going car but underneath the skin they are a completely diffrent animal. :-D

Re: Mk2 rally car...

Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2018 7:13 pm
by the edmundator
mr.brown wrote:To me, that's a Scirocco-shaped kit car.
Silhouette, I think, is the word. There was a saloon car championship that raced at a lot of the meets we used to go to with the 2cv Racing series back in the early 2000s. It was regularly won by a Skoda 110R... beating V8 Rover SD1s and various other apparently more powerful machines. Not much of it was actually a Skoda any more.

Re: Mk2 rally car...

Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2018 7:53 am
by Jack92
Yeah that is a very good point, but they did choose the correct body all the same hha


Jack
South East

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Seat Leon 1.8T 20V - Track Car
VW Scirocco Scala 1.8 Inj - Toy
Ford Transit 2.0 - Work Horse

Re: Mk2 rally car...

Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2018 8:52 am
by moser
I would have liked to see it mid engine rear drive. Group B had some monsters that weren’t 4wd.

Re: Mk2 rally car...

Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2018 8:23 pm
by Jack92
moser wrote:I would have liked to see it mid engine rear drive. Group B had some monsters that weren’t 4wd.
They did indeed the Lancia, Quattro head to head was and still is one of the best things that happened in motorsport


Jack
South East

www.motorsportdiscounts.co.uk
Seat Leon 1.8T 20V - Track Car
VW Scirocco Scala 1.8 Inj - Toy
Ford Transit 2.0 - Work Horse

Re: Mk2 rally car...

Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2018 2:49 pm
by farfoulin
Very interesting stuff, OP. Reading the full article debunks a few comments made on here though!
Jack92 wrote:...but all I can see is £ signs lol
Not that much it seems. Builder states $9,000 CAD which equals to about £5,000, including the price of the car.
mr.brown wrote:However, it does beg the question - when does a Scirocco stop being a Scirocco? To me, that's a Scirocco-shaped kit car.
The builder never claims it as a rocco. It's not even in the title of the article! He says somewhere that the goal was not to build a Group B Scirocco but rather use one as a base for his vision of a rally car. I recall he mentions the silhouette procedure quite clearly.
Jack92 wrote:Yeah that is a very good point, but they did choose the correct body all the same hha
It's his car, his prerogative. The article explains his difficult choices as he didn't have a blank sheet nor an unlimited budget to work with.
moser wrote:I would have liked to see it mid engine rear drive. Group B had some monsters that weren’t 4wd.
Considering the article states attempting to beat a record made on snow, isn't 4wd logical? It's a more versatile rally car that way. The site about Group B is impressive, too. The guy has obviously extensive knowledge about the topic, I bet more than anyone of us, especially to build a fully space-framed rally car from the ground up!

Ultimately, people always seem to mix personal feelings towards the projects of others. I don't quite get this. One builds a car such as this for oneself, clearly!

It's all good though. Opinions are one's entitlement.

Re: Mk2 rally car...

Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2018 3:25 pm
by BlackGTX
farfoulin wrote:Opinions are one's entitlement.
Hold on son this is the internet, you'r only entitled to other peoples opinions

Re: Mk2 rally car...

Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2018 8:18 pm
by MRMENDER
It would be a lot more expensive to get it anywhere near road legal, over here ;-)

Re: Mk2 rally car...

Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2018 6:11 am
by BlackGTX
MRMENDER wrote:It would be a lot more expensive to get it anywhere near road legal, over here ;-)
They'd keep requesting changes untill its a 1l corsa