Mk2 Parts

[Lightweight]

Hi All,

I have a 1985 Mk2 with no PAS, no power windows, no central locking and no A/C.

I am wondering if anyone has performed these upgrades before as I'm looking for some advice on where to start - I have done a number of searches and the general consensus with central locking is that VW's is pretty sub standard, so people are suggesting using aftermarket products. I can't seem to find a lot of info on the others though.

My main concern is actually getting hold of the bits as it appears unicorns are less rare than a Mk2 Scirocco being broken with all these parts. Can anyone advise if the parts are available new and any suppliers I can get in touch with?

For me the priority will be central locking and power steering - Should be able to go though the winter without A/C... but if anyone can share some knowledge it would be much appreciated!

[mr alpine92]

iv done this to my car i use http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Universal-2-d ... SwFGNWSY2F
for windows work good,you need to get hold off the litte bars for locking doors or make them your self

[mark1gls]

Power steering was not an option on the Mk2 so no standard parts available, there was a couple of places selling a kit for Mk1 golfs that may fit as they share the same floor pan etc.
I find I can drive my cars with just a finger and thumb when moving and the steering is light, don't even try and turn the steering wheel while stationary turn it while moving will make life easier, make sure your tyres are at the right pressure, I run my front tyres 2psi above the book setting. If you have bigger/wider wheels it will make your steering heaver. Properly adjusted tracking and camber also help with the lightness of the steering.

Air con.... The VW kit fitting to very few cars is not very good and is like finding hens teeth, you are better off opening both windows.

[Lightweight]

Hi alpine cheers for the reply - Just looking at the ebay page trying to work out how the f they work haha! Can you shed any light?

How long have you had them installed and did you position the new elec window switches where the old window winder was?

[james butler]

central locking was fitted as standard on some cars but its a bit of a pain to retro fit to cars that didn't have it.
its far cheaper to buy an electronic 2 solenoid kit as its easier to fit and wire in to your alarm system.( i paid £240 for someone to supply and fit central locking and toad ai606 alarm system to mine)
power steering kits can also be bought from some firms now which are made from Vauxhall Corsa electronic power steering (make of that what you will)
a/c i haven't a clue but as mark says open the sunroof and windows as aftermarket is going to be hard to come by and fit.
again the electric windows were fitted on some cars so keeping an eye out for a second hand kits is one option or going for after market mod is the other.

good thing is these cars are quite easy to work on so should be easy whatever you choose to do.

[Lightweight]

Power steering was not an option on the Mk2 so no standard parts available, there was a couple of places selling a kit for Mk1 golfs that may fit as they share the same floor pan etc.
I find I can drive my cars with just a finger and thumb when moving and the steering is light, don't even try and turn the steering wheel while stationary turn it while moving will make life easier, make sure your tyres are at the right pressure, I run my front tyres 2psi above the book setting. If you have bigger/wider wheels it will make your steering heaver. Properly adjusted tracking and camber also help with the lightness of the steering.

Air con.... The VW kit fitting to very few cars is not very good and is like finding hens teeth, you are better off opening both windows.

Thanks for the info Mark that's really useful...wasn't aware that the Mk2 never came with PAS and that A/C was that rare!

I hear you on the manual steering whilst on the move, it's lovely! Only thing is it's parked in a just-about big enough garage at night and I have to reverse super slowly up a narrow and winding drive to get into it. Doesn't help that the rims are 8j on the front lol, although reckon I could get used to it..may need to start doing some press ups

Onto the issue of A/C...I may be able to live without it if the lowest heater setting didn't still blow hot Any advice on why it could be blowing hot. If I could get it just slightly cooler that should suffice!

Cheers

[mr alpine92]

it not a hard kit to fit you just got to work it out all i can do is get some pictures off mine,it been fitted to the car for a year and it still work good

[bengould]

The heater issue is likely to be the valve in the engine bay. If you look at the bulkhead you will find the two hoses that supply the heater matrix with coolant. On one of them there is a valve that limits the amount of coolant that can enter the matrix. If this is worn it will let coolant past when it's off. Replace that and it should fix the problem. If not it could be that the cable that operates the valve has stretched and does not allow the valve to close fully.

The valve is much easier to get to and change so I'd try that first.

Ben.

[Lightweight]

central locking was fitted as standard on some cars but its a bit of a pain to retro fit to cars that didn't have it.
its far cheaper to buy an electronic 2 solenoid kit as its easier to fit and wire in to your alarm system.( i paid £240 for someone to supply and fit central locking and toad ai606 alarm system to mine)
power steering kits can also be bought from some firms now which are made from Vauxhall Corsa electronic power steering (make of that what you will)
a/c i haven't a clue but as mark says open the sunroof and windows as aftermarket is going to be hard to come by and fit.
again the electric windows were fitted on some cars so keeping an eye out for a second hand kits is one option or going for after market mod is the other.

good thing is these cars are quite easy to work on so should be easy whatever you choose to do.

Hi James thanks for the reply mate - Most people seem to be recommending the Toad AI606, going to dig a bit deeper and see what extra options are possible with them as ideally I'd like remote start and keyless entry along with proximity sensors..although I have read that most seem to think over-sensitive sensors are more of a PITA than a bonus. Do you know if Toad offer these with their kits? £240 seems a bargain for both of those systems supplied and fitted, may need to get a contact from you!

I'm guessing the Toad can work with any/ most aftermarket universal central locking kits? I've been looking at a couple on the bay and seems there's a lot of choice, some offering the standard remote CL, some offering keyless entry etc. Unsure if it'd be best to get these options from the central locking kit or get them from Toad when getting the alarm/ immob (if they offer this!) This is one from my watch list - http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/UNIVERSAL-CAR ... xyXTRR-W3q

Your advice on the universal electric PAS kits I'm going to look into. As for the more luxury options like A/C and leccy windows I'm going to drop to the bottom of the to-do list for the time being, all stuff that's desirable but I can live without! (especially through winter!)

Are all you lot Mk1/ 2 owners then?

[james butler]

im a mk2 owner.

the toad AI606 can do an awful lot and to be honest ive never exploited all the usefull features that are available.
they also offer lifetime warrenty with the car if fitted professionally which is why i had it
see here http://toadalarm.com/product/toad-ai606/
ring around as there are plenty of fitters across the country but make sure you get the certificate of installation for cat 1 insurance approval.
definitely worth the money and yes the interior sensors can be a bit sensitive. mine was going off not so long ago because i had air fresheners hanging from the rear view mirror and in strong wind air was coming through the dash vents causing them to flutter (or at least thats what the company who fitted them told me) and since i have removed the air fresheners ive had no issues.
if you have leccy windows they can be wired into the alarm for full closure but it gets a bit more complecated for the installers likewise the remote start can be fitted (but i would only do this to a fuel injected car as a carb car wont start without choke if you're running a Weber carb)

[james butler]

here is a link to a company that should be able to fit PAS to a scirocco.
http://www.deutschedoktors.co.uk/electr ... -mk1-golf/

give them a ring for a quote and more info.

[Lightweight]

The heater issue is likely to be the valve in the engine bay. If you look at the bulkhead you will find the two hoses that supply the heater matrix with coolant. On one of them there is a valve that limits the amount of coolant that can enter the matrix. If this is worn it will let coolant past when it's off. Replace that and it should fix the problem. If not it could be that the cable that operates the valve has stretched and does not allow the valve to close fully.

The valve is much easier to get to and change so I'd try that first.

Ben.

Thanks Ben - You are in fact the perfect person for advice, as the rocco I've bought has had a 20vt conversion and I know you're not exactly unfamiliar with this Am I right in thinking a feed from the rad to the bypass valve/ heater matrix could have been 'bypassed' if the previous owner decided it wasn't necessary?

As soon as it stops hammering it down and I can take it out the garage I'll have a look under the bonnet to get a better idea of what's going on.

[bengould]

If the feed to the matrix had been bypassed, you would have no heating. If the heater control valve had been bypassed it would always be hot, you would then have no control over the in cabin temp apart from fan speed.

Ben.

[mark1gls]

The valve on a standard car looks like this,
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MK1-GOLF-Heat ... SwyQtV3Z7x

You should be able to see a cable running to it with a metal rod inside which moves the valve from open to closed.

[Lightweight]

im a mk2 owner.

the toad AI606 can do an awful lot and to be honest ive never exploited all the usefull features that are available.
they also offer lifetime warrenty with the car if fitted professionally which is why i had it
see here http://toadalarm.com/product/toad-ai606/
ring around as there are plenty of fitters across the country but make sure you get the certificate of installation for cat 1 insurance approval.
definitely worth the money and yes the interior sensors can be a bit sensitive. mine was going off not so long ago because i had air fresheners hanging from the rear view mirror and in strong wind air was coming through the dash vents causing them to flutter (or at least thats what the company who fitted them told me) and since i have removed the air fresheners ive had no issues.
if you have leccy windows they can be wired into the alarm for full closure but it gets a bit more complecated for the installers likewise the remote start can be fitted (but i would only do this to a fuel injected car as a carb car wont start without choke if you're running a Weber carb)

Great advice there mate that's decision made - Reckon I'll go without remote start and the other extras...desirable but prob better to keep it simple!

Cheers for that link to deutschedoctors too, I'll bookmark that.