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Cam belt change

Posted: Fri May 01, 2015 4:08 pm
by mjmaster10
I have just bought a scirocco 1986 GTX and the last cam belt change was done 12 years ago / 7000 miles ago.

The car has been garaged for most of that time and done roughly 500-600 miles per year.

Does it need changing? Am I running a risk by not changing it pronto? The car itself is running fine.

Thanks for the help.

Re: Cam belt change

Posted: Fri May 01, 2015 4:13 pm
by the edmundator
It's ten years or the recommended mileage (80k, I think), so I would definitely change the belt. The tyres probably need replacing as well, if you haven't already.

Re: Cam belt change

Posted: Fri May 01, 2015 4:59 pm
by unknownmale
I would change it, with that amount of time passing the belt would start to degrade...belt and tensioner can be picked up for around £30...so cheap for the peace of mind.

Re: Cam belt change

Posted: Fri May 01, 2015 5:34 pm
by mjmaster10
Thanks all. Will definitely get it changed before using it any more.

I've had a quote from VW Walton on Thames for cam belt + tensioners + water pump. Fixed price £349.

Is that about right? They say its 3 hours work...

Re: Cam belt change

Posted: Fri May 01, 2015 5:45 pm
by GTXTRA
mjmaster10 wrote:Thanks all. Will definitely get it changed before using it any more.

I've had a quote from VW Walton on Thames for cam belt + tensioners + water pump. Fixed price £349.

Is that about right? They say its 3 hours work...

Give the Phirm a call - they're down the A30 near Hartley Wintney and charge half the labour a bloody dealer does. Well worth a call if the car is being recommissioned. They prepped the Arctic Blast GTX recently and that got to Norway and back!

Re: Cam belt change

Posted: Fri May 01, 2015 6:43 pm
by scirockirb
I was going to say the parts are about £50 so £100/hour sounds steep!

Re: Cam belt change

Posted: Fri May 01, 2015 7:00 pm
by the edmundator
Don't use a dealer. Their "technicians" are only trained in modern vehicles and you won't benefit from any expertise about your car. Much better to find a good local garage that understands older cars.

Re: Cam belt change

Posted: Fri May 01, 2015 9:16 pm
by james butler
if your even remotely competant you can do it yourself with a few spanners allen keys and the right knowhow

Re: Cam belt change

Posted: Fri May 01, 2015 9:20 pm
by james butler
i changed the timing belt , tappets and the camshaft seal in about 3-4 hours

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the only picture i missed out is the dot on the intermediate shaft lining up with the bottom pulley on the crank

Re: Cam belt change

Posted: Sat May 02, 2015 1:04 am
by unknownmale
mjmaster10 wrote:Thanks all. Will definitely get it changed before using it any more.

I've had a quote from VW Walton on Thames for cam belt + tensioners + water pump. Fixed price £349.

Is that about right? They say its 3 hours work...

I'm sure they're not trying to rip you off, but thats too high for the car. If you have a basic tool set you can do this at home in 1-2 hours.

Probably the most accessible cam belt change i've ever done!

Re: Cam belt change

Posted: Sat May 02, 2015 7:55 am
by mjmaster10
Give the Phirm a call - they're down the A30 near Hartley Wintney and charge half the labour a bloody dealer does. Well worth a call if the car is being recommissioned. They prepped the Arctic Blast GTX recently and that got to Norway and back![/quote]

Thanks - have dropped them an email and subject to their quote I think I'll do it with them.

Re: Cam belt change

Posted: Mon May 04, 2015 6:29 pm
by Nate
mjmaster10 wrote:Thanks all. Will definitely get it changed before using it any more.

I've had a quote from VW Walton on Thames for cam belt + tensioners + water pump. Fixed price £349.

Is that about right? They say its 3 hours work...
Water pump isn't driven by the cam belt,so won't need changing just coz the cam belt is being done.

It's at the front of the engine,under the alternator and driven by the auxiliary belt (fan belt)

Re: Cam belt change

Posted: Tue May 05, 2015 9:48 am
by mark1gls
mjmaster10 wrote:Thanks all. Will definitely get it changed before using it any more.

I've had a quote from VW Walton on Thames for cam belt + tensioners + water pump. Fixed price £349.

Is that about right? They say its 3 hours work...

That say's it all......... As Nate said you don't need to change the water pump at the same time and it should not take 3 hours, 2 hours if you was having trouble with rusty bolts, I can change mine in 30 mins if working fast and it all lines up first time.
The VW garage does not know what it's doing or what is involved, perhaps you spoke to some one on a desk just looking at a fixed price list for later VW's? I would avoid using them....

Re: Cam belt change

Posted: Tue May 05, 2015 10:26 am
by DannyH
The last twice i had it done it was £80 at 2 different local garages - one in Glasgow and one in Preston.

Re: Cam belt change

Posted: Tue May 05, 2015 2:53 pm
by Nate
3 hours might be the book time? Don't know though, not looked it up