The Rocco Grotto
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Re: The Rocco Grotto
Thanks for explaining the differences in chassis legs and addding part numbers, that's a great help.This is coming along really well!!
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Had a few air cooled jobs in lately, so won't linger on those, just get to the relevant bits.
Mystery Mk2.
And managed to get a bit further with the Mk1. Did some tidying and small bits of welding, then decided to get the measure of the panel work required. The car had patches of surface rust all over, some of it quite deep to cause pitting, so a fair bit of localised action with the sandblaster was in order. All very tedious, but essential. Then decided to bite the bullet and remove the paint from the large panels, taking the car to bare metal. I did this because a) the vinyl wrap had left glue residue that would likely come back to bite me and b) to get rid of any further rust that had crept under the paint (i found some). Cue more sanding, sanding, sanding....
And went for etch primer immediately. This primer that I use doubles as an adhesion promoter for filler, so the car has had a full hit on the panels before comencing with filler work where required. This way I hope that I have stabilised the panels to keep the dreaded stuff away. What plod you can see is initial shaping over etch brush painted previously around the repairs.
Looks heaps better already, but lots more work to do.
Mystery Mk2.
And managed to get a bit further with the Mk1. Did some tidying and small bits of welding, then decided to get the measure of the panel work required. The car had patches of surface rust all over, some of it quite deep to cause pitting, so a fair bit of localised action with the sandblaster was in order. All very tedious, but essential. Then decided to bite the bullet and remove the paint from the large panels, taking the car to bare metal. I did this because a) the vinyl wrap had left glue residue that would likely come back to bite me and b) to get rid of any further rust that had crept under the paint (i found some). Cue more sanding, sanding, sanding....
And went for etch primer immediately. This primer that I use doubles as an adhesion promoter for filler, so the car has had a full hit on the panels before comencing with filler work where required. This way I hope that I have stabilised the panels to keep the dreaded stuff away. What plod you can see is initial shaping over etch brush painted previously around the repairs.
Looks heaps better already, but lots more work to do.
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Re: The Rocco Grotto
So what's this magical primer then? I'm mostly using MIPA 2pack high build primer. Have some zinc182 for gloopy brushwork stuff. Have some 1k etch but haven't tried it yet.
Mostly I use that stuff because the local paint place stocks it, and it seems to work!
Mostly I use that stuff because the local paint place stocks it, and it seems to work!
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Mk1 Classic Touring Car Project...slowly does it
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I'm always cautious about singing the praises of particular products as it invariably attracts criticism but as it's you Mike, you legend, here it is. I use Bilt Hamber Etchweld for initial coating of bare metal and repaired areas. Have tried other stuff but found that this etch primer sticks like the proverbial and is versatile. It can be used neat or thinned for spraying. http://www.bilthamber.com/etchweld
next I'll abrade and apply filler (I use UPOL Fantastic http://www.u-pol.co.uk/documents/datash ... TDS-EN.pdf) then hit the car again with etchweld before following with high build 2k primer.
next I'll abrade and apply filler (I use UPOL Fantastic http://www.u-pol.co.uk/documents/datash ... TDS-EN.pdf) then hit the car again with etchweld before following with high build 2k primer.
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Catch up time again.
So after the filling and blocking, the car was painted again in etch primer, followed by high build primer. It was then mounted on a chassis tilter.
Did the last bits of welding to the underside of the car- making and fitting retainers for the petrol pipes. And the Legend GT Matt popped along to help out!
Then we painted the underside with etch primer and applied liberal amounts of seam sealer where necessary.
And applied this stuff once the etch and seam sealer was dry.
Its bloody good stuff being OEM and overpaintable too, but boy do you pay for it -nearly £40 for a litre....
Nice though.
Back on its wheels and strip the new wings and bonnet.
Etch and high build the wings and bonnet.
Then applied a guide coat and block sanded the primer ready for a few coats of colour tinted surfacer.
Guide coat and blocked the surfacer ready to receive the top coats of metallic base topped with lacquer.
Yum.
Left the paint to cure for a few days before colour sanding and buffing.
So after the filling and blocking, the car was painted again in etch primer, followed by high build primer. It was then mounted on a chassis tilter.
Did the last bits of welding to the underside of the car- making and fitting retainers for the petrol pipes. And the Legend GT Matt popped along to help out!
Then we painted the underside with etch primer and applied liberal amounts of seam sealer where necessary.
And applied this stuff once the etch and seam sealer was dry.
Its bloody good stuff being OEM and overpaintable too, but boy do you pay for it -nearly £40 for a litre....
Nice though.
Back on its wheels and strip the new wings and bonnet.
Etch and high build the wings and bonnet.
Then applied a guide coat and block sanded the primer ready for a few coats of colour tinted surfacer.
Guide coat and blocked the surfacer ready to receive the top coats of metallic base topped with lacquer.
Yum.
Left the paint to cure for a few days before colour sanding and buffing.
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Re: The Rocco Grotto
Absolutely stunning work :)
if you don't mind me asking, what is "colour tinted surfacer"?
if you don't mind me asking, what is "colour tinted surfacer"?
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Cheers Nate.
Surfacer is primer. I applied a last coat of primer tinted with colour because the top coats are a deep colour, the tinted primer beneath will aid uniformity of colour.
Surfacer is primer. I applied a last coat of primer tinted with colour because the top coats are a deep colour, the tinted primer beneath will aid uniformity of colour.
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Re: The Rocco Grotto
a huge thanks again to Ant. an absolutely fantastic job. it's now safely back down in gloucestershireshire. tomorrow the refitting commences...
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Re: The Rocco Grotto
This thread is overdue an update.
Had a fair few jobs in since the last post, including Mr.Fleetwood's Beast, see his thread on A20 GTX for the pics there. Other stuff too, aircooled, Golf shaped and other Marques.
But here is a major Scirocco project just right for the Grotto.
This is for a chap in Scotland, I picked the car up from Worcester. It is a GTX that has been off the road since the late 1990's and needed a complete restoration.
Strip down commenced earlier this year.
The car was ditched, all of the components were in need of replacement, the interior was a health hazard and featured its own eco system and electrics were touch and go. The engine would only cough on the 5th injector. The saving grace, amazing considering how long it had stood was that body was pretty much rust free, requiring a tiny bit of welding on the OS rear arch.
Time to get is sorted. The car was stripped down completely to a bare shell and work was needed from the bottom up.
So start with the bottom.
Scrubbed the underside clean.
Applied new VW underseal.
Then basecoat and lacquer in the original colour.
Had a fair few jobs in since the last post, including Mr.Fleetwood's Beast, see his thread on A20 GTX for the pics there. Other stuff too, aircooled, Golf shaped and other Marques.
But here is a major Scirocco project just right for the Grotto.
This is for a chap in Scotland, I picked the car up from Worcester. It is a GTX that has been off the road since the late 1990's and needed a complete restoration.
Strip down commenced earlier this year.
The car was ditched, all of the components were in need of replacement, the interior was a health hazard and featured its own eco system and electrics were touch and go. The engine would only cough on the 5th injector. The saving grace, amazing considering how long it had stood was that body was pretty much rust free, requiring a tiny bit of welding on the OS rear arch.
Time to get is sorted. The car was stripped down completely to a bare shell and work was needed from the bottom up.
So start with the bottom.
Scrubbed the underside clean.
Applied new VW underseal.
Then basecoat and lacquer in the original colour.
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Re: The Rocco Grotto
So after the underside was done it was time to turn attention to the bodywork.
The car was bare metalled, then skimmed and blocked all by hand to get the car as straight as I could.
Once happy with that the paint process could begin.
Light coat of etch primer.
Followed by high build primer.
Blocking the primer.
and ready for paint.
The car was bare metalled, then skimmed and blocked all by hand to get the car as straight as I could.
Once happy with that the paint process could begin.
Light coat of etch primer.
Followed by high build primer.
Blocking the primer.
and ready for paint.
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