Saggy dash

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Saggy dash

Post by moser » Thu Feb 15, 2018 3:43 pm

My dash looks a little sad by the glove box. Its all saggy and the gaps arent even. The same has happened on the other side behind/in front of (which ever way you look at it!) the instrument cluster. Its a shame because the nice clean sharp lines of the interior are one of the first things i fell in love with on the mk2's. Heres a picture

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I seem to remember a little metal support bracket behind there. Has anyone had any luck straightening it out and supporting it? i was thinking maybe fibreglassing the rear?

This isnt something i plan on doing until its warmer outside. i imagine itll be a days work at least and the longer summer days would help.

:scratch: Your thoughts would be appreciated.


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Re: Saggy dash

Post by the edmundator » Thu Feb 15, 2018 7:45 pm

It's warped because it has got damp and swollen, then dried out (possibly several times). The cure is to find a better dashboard.


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Re: Saggy dash

Post by moser » Thu Feb 15, 2018 8:20 pm

I figured it would probably be moisture related. Is new dash the only option?


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Re: Saggy dash

Post by the edmundator » Thu Feb 15, 2018 10:24 pm

Pretty much, I'd say. Half-decent ones turn up every now and then, but not quite as often as they used to.


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Re: Saggy dash

Post by moser » Fri Feb 16, 2018 8:07 am

I’ll keep an eye out for a new one although at least I won’t feel bad about drilling more holes in it for tweeters later if it’s fubar. I might have it out to do them and it wouldn’t hurt to try some straightening.


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Re: Saggy dash

Post by Jack92 » Fri Feb 16, 2018 10:53 am

Defo give it ago, maybe heat will help to get the shape back before trying to strengthen it. Would probably check what it’s made out of first just in case it catches fire lol


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Re: Saggy dash

Post by the edmundator » Fri Feb 16, 2018 11:17 am

I think it's some kind of compressed fibreboard.


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Re: Saggy dash

Post by moser » Fri Feb 16, 2018 12:33 pm

Yeah i think its a form of molded hardboard. If it has expanded i might be able to cut some out and then strengthen with some sort of metal strapping and fibreglass. Its a project for a warmer day and if i cant make it better its not the end of the world.

I will keep an eye out for a good condition one as well though get the feeling i could be waiting a while for that!

Good thing about the one ive got is there doesnt seem to be much cracking.

Thanks for your inputs guys.


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Re: Saggy dash

Post by james butler » Sat Feb 17, 2018 9:22 pm

ive often wondered if you soaked it in water and then clamped it onto a straight edge whether it would straighten out and dry like it?


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Re: Saggy dash

Post by Jack92 » Sun Feb 18, 2018 7:39 pm

james butler wrote:ive often wondered if you soaked it in water and then clamped it onto a straight edge whether it would straighten out and dry like it?
That did go through my head but would you just end up with a pile of mess lol


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Re: Saggy dash

Post by james butler » Sun Feb 18, 2018 9:22 pm

i think like ed says it swells up when it gets damp then when it drys it never really goes back into shape so if you could get it wet enough to be plyable then if you have a suitable mold or way to clamp it up then when it drys it should dry straight, or at least thats the theory :?


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Re: Saggy dash

Post by the edmundator » Sun Feb 18, 2018 9:48 pm

I suspect the swelling leaves air spaces in the fibres - much like when chipboard gets wet - and you'll never persuade it back to its original shape.


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Re: Saggy dash

Post by moser » Sun Feb 18, 2018 10:26 pm

the edmundator wrote:I suspect the swelling leaves air spaces in the fibres - much like when chipboard gets wet - and you'll never persuade it back to its original shape.
I suspect this is most likely knowing how processed wood like chipboard and mdf react to water. Might be worth a go though if I’m careful it shouldn’t get too much worse. I think that cutting out where it has swollen and reinforcing it with fibreglass might be where I end up


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Re: Saggy dash

Post by Jack92 » Mon Feb 19, 2018 9:29 am

Think it is probably the best safe option if I’m honest at least you have control what happens that way


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