Steering Lock and Accessory position

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Steering Lock and Accessory position

Post by p in phcas » Mon Aug 03, 2015 8:55 am

I'm going to bring a couple of random threads together so bear with me.

It is a pain that there is no accessory position on the ignition. Off or engine running seem to be the only options, or so it seems. There is an accessory option but it's not wired so I did some web investigation and found the "SU" tag. Apparently the steering lock is the same as the Mk2 Golf and they do have an extra wire connected to a small tag on the back of the ignition switch, marked SU. It becomes live when the key is inserted. - Key in, accessories on, key out, accessories off.

This weekend I decided to investigate and, low and behold, there's the SU tag as promised but no wire. With a bit off faffing I managed to put in a small wire and connector but....... key in, accessories on, key out, accessories off (all good so far), key in, accessories on, key out slowly, accessories still on! (bad) - Key in, Key out, accessories off, tap the barrel of the lock - accessories on! It seems my barrel is worn and contact is being made where it shouldn't.

So, here's the thing. Should I replace the complete steering lock unit? I assume the parts are (exactly) the same from the Mk2 golf.

I want to keep the key the same so would I be transferring the problem from one to another by transferring the barrel or can I get a new lock with my key matched to it?

Should I even bother?

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Re: Steering Lock and Accessory position

Post by Blueshark » Mon Aug 03, 2015 10:15 am

Electric part and key barrel are two separate items, you can swap the electric part and keep the same key.

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Re: Steering Lock and Accessory position

Post by james butler » Thu Aug 06, 2015 1:03 am

plus theres a how to in the haynes manual to remove the lock complete to go into another steering lock housing.
its just a case of knowing how pull it out, have a look in the manual.


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Re: Steering Lock and Accessory position

Post by p in phcas » Mon May 11, 2020 5:33 pm

I am going to resurrect this post, especially as I started it!

I bought the ignition switch last year and this weekend decided to give a go at installing it. I have got as far as removing the steering wheel, switch gear and was left staring at the splines, spring and top column bearings. So far I can't get it off, even with a persuading hammer, to be able to remove the switch unit. I have ordered a bearing puller so should be able to have another go in a couple of days.

If anyone is interested in how I get on, interested in having their own accessories connection, and I can work out how to post pictures, let me know and I'll update this a bit more.


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Re: Steering Lock and Accessory position

Post by Blueshark » Mon May 11, 2020 8:50 pm

What do you need an accessory position for, you either drive or you do not drive ;-)



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Re: Steering Lock and Accessory position

Post by PeteGLi » Tue May 12, 2020 11:51 am

I take it that you have removed the black plastic cowling over the steering column. That would then reveal the bolt on the left hand side of the column which holds the steering lock and ignition switch housing in place.



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Re: Steering Lock and Accessory position

Post by p in phcas » Thu May 14, 2020 7:46 am

Blueshark wrote:
Mon May 11, 2020 8:50 pm
What do you need an accessory position for, you either drive or you do not drive ;-)
Because I have a bluetooth parrot in there and I switch off the engine and it kills the connection - doh! Just call me fussy.


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Re: Steering Lock and Accessory position

Post by p in phcas » Thu May 14, 2020 7:48 am

PeteGLi wrote:
Tue May 12, 2020 11:51 am
I take it that you have removed the black plastic cowling over the steering column. That would then reveal the bolt on the left hand side of the column which holds the steering lock and ignition switch housing in place.
Yep. I can't slide the assembly up because of the spline blocking the steering column bearing. Apparently it has to be lifted / drifted off.


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Re: Steering Lock and Accessory position

Post by p in phcas » Thu May 14, 2020 8:26 am

I'll post more when I get the spline off.
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Re: Steering Lock and Accessory position

Post by PeteGLi » Thu May 14, 2020 11:04 am

Take the top cowl off - makes things a lot easier.
Loosen the universal joint bolt at the bottom of the steering column.
Put the nut back on the top of the steering column to protect the threads.
Hit with a hammer to loosen the fit between the column and the ball-bearing bearing in the ignition switch/steering lock housing.
As the switch gear came off without removing the splines, you should be able to slide the ignition switch/steering lock housing over the splines.



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Re: Steering Lock and Accessory position

Post by p in phcas » Sat May 16, 2020 4:02 pm

I can't get the top cowl off.


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Post by PeteGLi » Sun May 17, 2020 11:38 am

There is a little tag on each side of the cowl that clips onto the housing. If you feel just behind the key and gently pull the side of the cowl out, and do the same on the opposite side, you should feel the cowl release up.



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Re: Steering Lock and Accessory position

Post by p in phcas » Wed May 20, 2020 8:44 am

I finally got it off but I think I broke a tab, another bit of brittle plastic bites the dust. The bits to be replaced is ever increasing (and harder to get hold of)


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Re: Steering Lock and Accessory position

Post by p in phcas » Wed May 20, 2020 10:24 pm

UPDATE... I manage to get the spline off and remove the lock housing to get to the screw that hold the switch part in place. After replacing is seems the problem is still there and also manifests itself with the steering lock not being activated. I am now thinking that the lock mechanism is either faulty or... something dropped out of the mech when I took it apart.

Is there a small spring between the plastic switch unit and the lock mech that pushes out when the key is removed? Does anyone have any detailed photos of the assembly or a workshop manual that shows how the whole lock, switch and barrel goes together?
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Re: Steering Lock and Accessory position

Post by p in phcas » Thu May 21, 2020 6:36 pm

I fixed it

Having taken the barrel out I found a pin connecting the barrel to the lock mechanism had fallen out.

I put the pin back in and now the steering lock and accessory position works.

If you’ve wondered what the inside lock unit looks like here’s a picture.
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