Stuck sunroof

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Stuck sunroof

Postby Jerry Atric » Wed Apr 19, 2017 6:49 am

I think this a common problem with Sciroccos ( and Audis ) that have sat for a long period of time unused ......

The sunroof sticks and becomes inoperable.......

Anyone have any advice as to how it might be possible to free it off and get the roof opening and closing again please ?

....and "no, I don't want to weld it up ! " ;-)



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Re: Stuck sunroof

Postby mark1gls » Wed Apr 19, 2017 9:41 am

Guide here to cleaning the workings of the roof which will help.

http://www.timbox.net/technotes/sunroof ... -technote/


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Re: Stuck sunroof

Postby Jerry Atric » Wed Apr 19, 2017 3:23 pm

Thanks Mark for the link, but unfortunately this sunroof will do zilch at the moment.....it will not even tilt let alone wind back. Not sure the material will slide back at all, it looks pretty firmly fixed right now....as my car is immobile too , think I'd better leave it for the time being in case I get to the stage where the roof is partly in/out and I'm unable to close . And cannot get the car under cover either.

However, any suggestions still gratefully received.



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Re: Stuck sunroof

Postby unknownmale » Wed Apr 19, 2017 3:57 pm

Can you hear anything, clunking or anything binding when you turn the handle?

The lift slides are a common issue on these with them rotting out I believe.

Perhaps the previous owner has sealed it up?

Best off leaving it for now if it's outside.


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Re: Stuck sunroof

Postby Jerry Atric » Fri Apr 21, 2017 6:24 am

Thanks for your thoughts on the sunroof, I tend to agree that it may well be the lift slides which are binding....I doubt they have rusted/rotted as the car was kept in a dry barn for approx 18 years, but the lubricants etc have most likely dried out in the worm gear and other moving parts. Definitely not sealed up.....it'll move about an eighth of an inch and then its rock solid !

Just wondering if I sacrifice the inner headlining of the sunroof, if that'll make the working gear and drives accessible ? At some later stage maybe able to source a replacement for the lost lining ?

I had asked the previous owner if the sunroof worked and he did say it tilted and that was all. Haynes manual say if the roof can be tilted, then the inner roof lining is removable, but if the roof won't even tilt ( back to the lift slides! ) then for the moment I think its fu**ed !!! :-(



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Re: Stuck sunroof

Postby james butler » Fri Apr 21, 2017 5:56 pm

sounds like the mech is out of sync
we found this problem on any macs car when we tried to fix his sunroof.
theres 2 push pull cables that drive the sunroof into position against the metal runners.
if one cable moves even one notch out of sync with the other it all goes wonky and locks up.
you will need to tilt the sunroof in order to get it out so that should be your priority but unfortunately theres no access to it through the headlining as its all concealed inside a metal cassette welded to the roof.
once tilted you can remove the cloth panel on the inside of the sunroof which will give you access to the screws holding the sunroof in and access to the control cables and guide mechanism.
its a clever but horrendous setup, if mine ever starts playing up it will stay closed forever!!


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Re: Stuck sunroof

Postby Jerry Atric » Sat Apr 22, 2017 6:51 am

Thanks James for your input.....I'm beginning to think your last sentence may HAVE to be the answer, , altho' I really enjoy these roofs ....when they work correctly! Obviously the main problem is how to tilt the roof and I fear in attempting that, other parts may get damaged/broken and I guess I could end up in an even worse position with it neither open or closed. :dash:



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Re: Stuck sunroof

Postby Rocco2 » Sun Apr 23, 2017 5:51 am

If you get yours opened and start to put the inner panel in, then there is one really important thing to check. I struggled with mine a lot because of it.
https://postimg.org/image/arzcy6otj/
The panel has clips that hold it tightly...but those clips somehow managed to get stuck around the "rod". On the picture is what is not suppose to happen.

And that caused the sunroof to get stuck.
It didn't move at all, it was real pita to get open again.

Maybe you find it helpful :)


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Re: Stuck sunroof

Postby Jerry Atric » Sun Apr 23, 2017 10:49 pm

https://www.thesamba.com/vw/archives/ma ... oledVW.pdf

Just in case anyone else has missed this link, I've copied it from another "sunroof thread"

Fantastic description of how the roof works and the fixes for various problems. Will be digesting this all over the next week or so and hoping it'll help me resolve my problems.




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